It was an attempted suicide by a JW adolescent that provoked me (after my disfellowshipping) to overturn the table holding the emblems at the memorial. I didn't care what they thought of me.
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Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?
by Simon init's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.
some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.
i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.
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Can Trump Be Forced To Take A Psychological Exam To Prove His Mental Fitness (Narcissistic Pernsonality Disorder) A Mater Of National Secrui
by Brokeback Watchtower ini'm think with the president having the ability to use nuclear weapons the need for a psychological exam should be a must for world safety because of the very real damage an easily offended narcissist could do if in a narcissistic rage he had access to nuclear weapons.
since he has clearly shown he has all 100% of the signs that he is one,, surely he can be impeached over this even in conservative run house and senate.
i think the united states owes the world that precaution to not let a mad man have access to nuclear weapons.
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Sanchy,
Doesn't change the fact that he won through the democratic process.
So was Adolf Hitler until he destroyed Germany's democratic system.
Brokeback Watchtower,
There has to be some safeguards in countries with nuclear weapons to limit a mad man access to them.
Sanchy,
The "safeguard" is the democratic process
Nuclear arms are not launched with a vote from the people.
just fine,
It's not like Hilary was any better.
Yes, she was, no matter how abysmal the choice was. Those who say that Trump was the lesser of two evils don't understand the meaning of the word evil. Those who simply couldn't tolerate neither could have voted for a third party or not voted at all. That would be morally better than enabling something evil.
As far as I am concerned there should be an extensive personality, knowledge, and IQ tests for any presidential candidate. You need far more qualifications to be a manager of a business than to be the President of the United States.
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Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?
by Simon init's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.
some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.
i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.
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Outlaw,
They had a previous non-JW life,they have something to go back to..
That leaves me in a twilight zone between born in and converted. I was converted at 13 and stayed until 21. I had nothing to go back to but I did, in the back of my mind, think that it was possible to just leave. Also, my social skills are atrocious.
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Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?
by Simon init's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.
some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.
i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.
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Jeff Davies,
Whether there is a higher suicide rate from ex JW's I actually doubt though... it takes a lot of strength of character to leave everything you know behind; not the actions of a person who gives up the fight easily.
My thoughts exactly on the strength of character. However, some ex-JWs have been kicked or dropped out for other reasons than apostasy which don't involve character.
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Can Trump Be Forced To Take A Psychological Exam To Prove His Mental Fitness (Narcissistic Pernsonality Disorder) A Mater Of National Secrui
by Brokeback Watchtower ini'm think with the president having the ability to use nuclear weapons the need for a psychological exam should be a must for world safety because of the very real damage an easily offended narcissist could do if in a narcissistic rage he had access to nuclear weapons.
since he has clearly shown he has all 100% of the signs that he is one,, surely he can be impeached over this even in conservative run house and senate.
i think the united states owes the world that precaution to not let a mad man have access to nuclear weapons.
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Sanchy,
Trump is president. Get used to it.
Trump is evil, get used to it.
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Mythical Nemesis and Nibiru, or is it?
by Vidqun ina long time since the topic has been raised on jwn.
" according to the majority of scientists, it's all our fault.
our high carbon emissions and increase in co2 are causing changes in our weather.
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Crazyguy,
This is all based on Zachariah Sitchens books and writings were he claims to have translated the Sumerians Akkadian writings and thier cuneiform text. Let make one thing perfectly clear, this guys had no expertise in translating these ancient writings and has been exposed as a fraud!!!
Reminds me of Erich Von Daniken and his book Chariots of the Gods. That was decades ago. There seems to be half a dozen of these crackpots within every generation.
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Will Donald Trump Be Impeached Before His Term Ends?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini'm thinking his willful failure to be briefed by the cia about russian election tampering and not understanding diplomatic protocall.
making off handed statements without proper research about the mater.
he's an outsider when it comes to running the government that will make big mistakes at every turn because he seems clueless when it comes to running a government.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-predicts-trump-impeach-resign_us_58261464e4b0c4b63b0c6dee.
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ShirleyW,
"Will the orange moron be impeached before his term ends?"
We can only hope so.
It will make no difference as far as the advancement of the ultra-conservative agenda since Mike Pence will become president if Trump is successfully impeached.
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assembly day
by loneranger inone day assembly..jan 1 2017 in central florida....1870 in attendance...13 baptiized (0.6%)...
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I wonder if anyone knows what the youngest known age of baptism is.
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No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution
by opusdei1972 inas far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.
well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.
so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.
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opusdei1972,
The most absurd thing is that the Watchtower Society still shows in its literature (their Insight Encyclopedia), that Adam was created 6000 years ago:
I haven't checked recently but I get the impression that the Watchtower has dropped their "Weeks within a week" doctrine with the creation days of Genesis being 7,000 years long with a length of seven 1,000 year days each.
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No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution
by opusdei1972 inas far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.
well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.
so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.
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Three strands of beliefs by Christians on the subject of evolution.
- Young Earth Creationism: Earth created 6,000 - 10,000 years ago (42,000 years ago for former Watchtower chronology). No evolution.
- Old Earth Creationism: Earth created ? - 4.5 billion years ago. Evolution, maybe.
- Theistic Evolution: Earth created 4.5 billion years ago. God directs evolution for his own goals.
